@brainrotpolitics: Destiny on the moralization of processes #politics #debates #peterboghossian #philosophy

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nickmankamusic
nickmankamusic :
Usually people disagreeing with rent control or affirmative action don’t suggest alternatives to solve the issue. Hence the morality being brought up
2022-07-31 14:39:04
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williambettelheim
Devin :
He’s right. But sometimes the problem is that people want to get rid of an imperfect solution without offering an alternative.
2022-08-01 18:51:05
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lichijiu
Trace Walding :
thats because rent control is morally good by itself. capitalism has us thinking that making money by owning is good, but its incremental theft.
2022-07-31 11:16:37
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markefreet
markefreet :
rare destiny W
2022-07-31 13:25:25
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khaladinlucky555
Lucky :
Sure but name the alternative. Because usually that alternative is the norm ie do nothing which is worse
2022-08-01 13:44:53
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ns_865
nickk :
This is the absolute perfect/explanation of the dynamic that exist
2022-07-31 05:39:51
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kasonwhitsell
Kason Whitsell📚 :
Cool, but the issue here is that people in bad faith attack and reduce the effects of the processes to the point of making them irrelevant, and then
2022-08-02 07:36:46
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benstephens51
benstephens51 :
I do t agree with Destiny on politics a lot, but he always seems to come at issues in good faith, so I’ll always listen and consider his points
2022-07-31 15:30:32
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danryan123
Dani Rian :
Ends don’t justify means
2022-07-31 11:21:12
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carsonivory
Ash Ivory :
But how do you tell the difference between someone critiquing the process because they want to improve it vs attacking it because they're a bad actor?
2022-08-02 01:00:41
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nylok4601
Nylok :
I disagree with the guy on a lot, but this is spot on
2022-07-31 10:59:22
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johnnybegood31
John :
Using ends to justify the means.
2022-07-31 12:25:13
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gregderenzis
Greg DeRenzis :
people who are against the "moral end", but are aware of the stigma, often criticize the "process" instead. Don't just criticize, find solutions!
2022-08-01 22:22:05
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thehack256
The hack 256 :
If you can’t exchange ideas nothing can be solved
2022-07-31 14:15:47
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yourmomsayshi71
Yourmomsayshi :
Where is this podcast or long interview?
2022-07-21 16:37:13
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wodeat
wodeat :
2x the racially diverse students with the same graduation rate means 2x the racially diverse graduates. Sounds like it working to me.
2022-08-02 01:46:13
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hexxiiiz
Yvan Vivid :
Guy's argument is just a tactic to avoid actually debating the process. The classic "the ppl I disagree with are actually meta-wrong and don't get it"
2022-07-31 15:35:51
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mommysauce
purple shirt :
very good destiny
2022-07-24 03:32:47
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rackyphyr_reborn
Rackyphyr :
I'm not entirely sure if this is what he's saying, but I've always told this to many friends: using unfair policies to reach fair solutions is bad.
2022-08-01 15:59:09
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hey8749
hey8749 :
a guy who hits his girlfriend is not a good vehicle for this message
2022-07-31 16:59:48
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thelittlewaves
Tim Rizzo :
Don't know his other stuff, but this is it in a nutshell, and the reason parties have been able to polarize voters
2022-08-01 23:54:02
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informativesirk
Sirk :
Is this Destiny's Variant in which he just spits out rare Ws
2022-08-04 23:38:52
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avalonicous
Avalonicous :
it's fantastic listening to Destiny in little short bursts, but I feel like I lose my mind when I try to watch a whole debate that he's in
2022-08-02 03:48:35
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111111000o1
010010010001101 :
There is a reason thats happening. In an online world, too many have had conversations where an attack on the process preceeded the attack on the goal
2022-07-31 17:12:12
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sph1846
sph54 :
anyone who argued against these things would rather do nothing, than propose a viable policy, also destiny L
2022-07-31 17:06:41
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dallascrane
The Brass Spy :
Exactly explains the toxicity of left politics, especially those who virtue signal with no substance or science in their policies
2022-08-02 07:00:41
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stewstrength
StewStrengthCo :
He is right. It feels like gaslighting when people pretend they don’t see this obvious moral posturing.
2022-08-04 18:57:20
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sirhexxus
SirHexxus :
EXACTLY! THANK YOU!
2022-08-02 03:12:05
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tron_little
Tron_Little :
Lol what? UC Schools have been banned from using affirmative action since 1996? And it's hurt black/Latino students. He's spewing nonsense
2022-08-02 05:22:11
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carmeninciderdus
Carmenin Ciderdus :
Its come to the point that Democrats think Republicans dont want to stop mass/school shootings. As if my kid isnt also in that school getting shot.
2022-07-31 16:37:54
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nui_master
Nui_Master :
Rent control works if asking rent is always capped at 130% of the units mortgage
2022-08-02 01:13:46
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david.katz
David :
Spoken like someone who never has to worry about a home ever again
2022-07-31 16:48:45
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evoballer
D5 Ranger :
You have nailed exactly the fault in all democrat policies. All mean we’ll but never end well. They are always feeding the bears. Metaphorically
2022-08-02 02:09:08
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adroit.interlocutor
§ :
Affirmative action and job quotas take away spots from people who are more qualified.
2022-08-01 14:55:02
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crod0485
CRod0485 :
well that's because you should also explain why it's not working and what can be do about it. WHY are graduation rates the same despite double the
2022-08-02 01:16:45
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j.b4k3r
j.B4k3R :
Ending homelessness 👍 by killing all homeless people 👎
2022-07-31 17:12:29
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whatsgoodneighborhood
Ferg :
I think the issue is the critique of a possible solution without the presentation of an alternative is opposition
2022-08-02 00:21:48
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abrahamfroman
Abraham Froman :
Graduation total or graduation rate?
2022-08-02 03:28:29
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pataow
pataow :
Such an excellent observation that begins the video.
2022-07-31 11:32:24
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kylembennett0
kylembennett0 :
If the graduation rate remains the same, isn’t that a good thing?
2022-08-01 20:51:09
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c2squared2
C2 :
I don’t understand how a C tier StarCraft player is even remotely still relevant.
2022-07-31 15:20:53
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haast_eagle1
Haast Eagle :
saved before it's taken down for "bullying"
2022-07-31 10:21:42
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upsethuh
UpsetHuh? :
affirmative action isn't equality it's literally the opposite
2022-08-02 09:51:36
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sfranz333
sfranz333 :
Great distinction and explanation
2022-07-31 17:46:29
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kevinsuchcicki
Kevin Suchcicki :
That was excellent. Well done.
2022-08-02 03:57:05
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