@elexmichaelson: In his first sit down interview since debating Ron DeSantis, @gavinnewsom talks about the moment the Florida Governor pulled out of his jacket a map of feces in San Francisco. He’s no Ronald Reagan! Here’s a guy running for President of the United States and wow, he pulls out a poop map?! I was embarrassed for him!” Newsom says DeSantis was “even stiffer” behind the scenes than on camera. We spoke at @phoenix_house_venice_beach, a rehab facility that would benefit from Prop 1. Learn more about that in my previous Instagram post. #gavinnewsom #rondesantis #debate #politics #elexmichaelson #theissueis #poop