@aiforhumansshow: What are the downsides of using Microsoft Co-Pilot? We asked the amazing Pirate Software about it. His issue? It generates code that is just ‘ok’ which can lead to not only bland and boring sorts of solutions but also can be a problem with security and other significant issues. Check out this week’s full episode for lots of other great stuff from Thor as well as all the latest AI News! #programming #ai #copilot #microsoft #aitools #piratesoftware @kpAttack @Gavin Purcell @PirateSoftware

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ingressfatwallaby
Ingress Fat Wallaby :
disagree with this one. most of the time copilot helps newer devs tremendously. naturally Thor's problems are going to be more complex and require bespoke solutions.
2024-05-03 15:08:16
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lemonscrow
Lemoncrow :
It’s literally called “co-pilot” for a reason, it’s not meant to take control away from the programmer; if you want something uncommon, or specific, you need to instruct it.
2024-05-03 18:33:13
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hostile_butter_salesman
Hostile Butter Salesman :
Hard disagree
2024-10-04 15:33:35
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christanner476
christanner476 :
common code = easy to understand = fewer bugs.
2024-05-03 19:30:02
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vangthieu
Van Thieu :
Copilot is just that, it's not there to be a complete replacement, it's there to assist you Captain, takes two to fly a 747 😉
2024-05-04 06:09:17
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jsmstormy
Stormy :
More plz
2024-05-04 16:50:45
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xigeminorum
Xi :
Use it as a tool. I let it generate common loops for me based of values, scaffold the boilerplate constructor that I use everywhere, etc. it’s about how you use it.
2024-05-03 17:07:20
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kpattack
kpAttack :
I hope y’all get a chance to hear the full interview on this one.
2024-05-04 03:37:07
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mattfarmerai
Matt Farmer | AI & Marketing :
Great interview! 🦾🤖
2024-05-04 04:39:52
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xxscorpinoxx
deceptive :
I disagree. it's extremely useful.
2024-05-09 04:57:20
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reluctant.king
Jace :
there are times when all you need is common code or code thats tedious to write and that's where copilot comes in. I do not think new devs should use AI because they dont have the skills to shortcut
2024-05-29 04:52:15
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dgamefather
dgamefather :
I've been using it at work and honestly is a bit annoying at times and just use it for an auto complete since my IDE is trash for auto complete natively
2024-05-09 19:22:35
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ihordrahushchak
ihordrahushchak :
most of the time you are doing common code than uncommon. Plus I am using it not to write the whole feature, but for writing boiler plate code that will be the same even if I wrote it myself.
2024-05-09 12:42:10
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vini_de_melo
Vinícius Melo :
code from copilot always needs corrections, gpt at least has some stuff that works right off the bat
2024-05-04 13:52:16
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princ3sspink0816
kc :
♥️
2025-05-27 08:44:48
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notarocketscientist
Notarocketscientist :
😅😅😅
2025-03-07 04:49:47
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bgosl
bgosl :
Let’s be honest: about 80% of the code you write, if not more, can be mid. If your environment is sane, you don’t need to fret over security or optimality with every line of code.
2024-05-05 15:52:53
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vg_dragon
VG Dragon :
copilot is nice for basic repeating things. For example, if you have multiple data classes or print outputs.
2024-05-05 09:42:43
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sophosjocus
nullreferrer :
I think it's a very useful tool for experienced Devs. you know what you need at this point, it's just scaffolding stuff so you don't have to
2024-05-04 05:23:20
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gavinpurcell0
Gavin Purcell :
We loved having Thor (Pirate Software) on this week’s AI For Humans!
2024-05-03 14:57:09
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brandonbodily
Brandon Bodily :
This is going to age like milk
2024-05-03 14:02:12
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agenticeye
Agentic Eye :
😎Cool interview. Thanks
2024-05-05 10:59:37
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phongleq
Phongleq :
This guy is very mid. Like do you expect MACHINE LEARNING to be better than what’s out there lol. The data set they learn from is what is public, what every average dev will post
2024-05-03 15:44:56
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orangesheet
Orangesheet :
Copilot’s only looking to solve the problem you give it. It’s not looking at scalability or interoperability. It’s fine for simple apps, but isn’t sustainable for platforms with many features.
2024-05-03 14:14:29
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charlesnotwhite2
Charlesnotwhite :
Bad take, but he is not a software engineer so it’s expected, he is a security expert
2024-05-26 05:03:33
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samtearoom
samtearoom :
i agree with most of the things he says so. BUT! as someone that is starting life in his 30s and learning CS. Ai has able to teach me so many things
2024-05-23 17:43:04
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carlossna8
Carlos :
enterprise code is not the most efficient in most cases. I would say is the most maintainable.
2024-05-14 04:06:05
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nathughes17
Nat Hughes :
my career coach told me it's good for learning the basics and then build from there. I am using it for that
2024-05-13 23:05:06
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jeffemtp
jeff_atx :
GitLab for life
2024-05-09 00:14:47
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rahb3rt
Robert :
Copilot is exactly what I needed to focus on building UI when I’m a backend developer. It’s support it’s not an end all. Even if it was. Most companies want product not quality code
2024-05-08 22:19:11
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dekirudev
Dekiru :
I fully agree. I tried copilot and it's cool but doing me more harm than good. especially learning. I'm like well it's working but I don't know how...
2024-05-08 16:44:51
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squidjammies
Murph :
AI can walk but it can’t run. It can be helpful when you’re stuck in a rut to give you other things to google when you don’t see a clear path forward
2024-05-07 02:32:23
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right.shift
RShift :
i love this cause means more jobs for me s2
2024-05-06 22:14:58
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myk.eth
myk.eth :
Maybe I learned to code at the exact right time where I had to learn the hard way & now I know when to use co-p vs when not to?
2024-05-06 19:30:22
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thegamedevcave
The game dev cave :
It’s great as a fancy auto complete and when it provides you the solution you already had in mind it feels great. But don’t rely on it coming up with the actual solution
2024-05-06 14:43:16
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draconktk
enric bertran diaz :
Almost the only thing I use copilot is to generate tests for old code before refactors so I don't break the happy path
2024-05-05 13:52:56
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dhamongrimwulf
David Navalho :
Fully agree with this take. I have used it to do simple quick “scripts”, such as creating a data generator, or really anything that I need to do a PoC, demo or a Lab with running services behind.
2024-05-05 13:51:34
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randygulak855
RyanGlak :
no matter what every influencer always seems doomed to become a talking head... copilot is just another tool. it's like saying oh I don't like auto complete in vs code I like notepad++.
2024-05-05 04:45:54
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grandaddog0
grandaddog :
I think everyone thinks of copilot as a code completion tool its far better as a documentation finder, use chat for times when you would otherwise open your lib docs etc and its amazing
2024-05-04 03:54:56
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hiya._.hiya
hiyahiya :
it's like when you're talking, someone just taking over it.. most of the time it's not what you're currently thinking
2024-05-04 02:18:42
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thefakejeffrey
Not Jeffrey :
Copilot is good for the laymen to be able to find solutions to moderately complex, but common problems. I say that as someone who uses it for that exact purpose.
2024-05-03 20:41:58
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