Tad Stoermer
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moose_1977 :
Where were you all when I, a blk woman historian, was being shouted down by my entire graduate class for arguing the EXACT POINTS YOU MAKE HERE?! They were fukin pissed at me for not agreeing!
2024-10-18 11:47:51
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rodney0nline :
Thanks for ringing this bell so soundly and so often. ✊🏼
2024-10-18 01:28:39
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Bill Bilson :
1/2 Dialectical materialism allows us to take what few good ideas the founders had and criticize them for the rest. As a society, we really need to understand how short-lived the founders' successes
2024-10-18 00:59:51
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John Hensley18 :
absolutely, bout time this perspective is getting expressed..
2024-10-18 01:53:42
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313ctromojo :
I’ve never understood this worship of the intellect of the Founding Fathers. The US isn’t a powerful nation because of the constitution in many ways it’s despite it. it’s luck and geography
2024-10-18 00:52:09
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Mariana | cat mom 🐾 :
My thesis is going to be about the breeding plantations and how one system of oppression made way to others that affected black families and women’s autonomy long after the civil war.
2024-10-18 11:13:44
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Random67 :
These were really were men of their times and they created this country for their own economic self interest and not for any higher "truth".
2024-10-18 02:26:32
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erin_o75 :
The "patriots" didn't live in a magical time where morality didn't exist. Enslaving humans is wrong!!
2024-10-19 07:57:35
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ab74a3 :
At last! We can deal with things honestly and with integrity
2024-10-18 14:53:24
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Joe Ted :
Yeah they really hosed us when they kicked that particular can down the road. Knocks some of the wind out of the living document premise.
2024-10-18 02:47:18
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N0rthcountrYman :
Open ended question:So how should someone like me with a Poli sci background go about explaining our government once we establish what these guys did? Scrap it all? See it as part of an ongoing thing?
2024-10-18 00:56:52
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✨Erika DW🇨🇩🇸🇩🇭🇹🍉✨ :
Andrew Johnson had an Indigenous “son” BUT he had disdain for/Indigenous People - thefted more of their lands. Black codes formed under him AND he was lenient 2 confederate soldiers, not trying them 4
2024-10-22 03:24:00
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jmac7170 :
The most baffling part of the myth is that the facts are not hidden in any way.
2024-10-19 11:55:31
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CarlH :
Thank you Prof Tad for the factual clarity you provide!!!!!!
2024-10-18 15:28:33
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MamaSuSu :
Yes. This is where it stops for me, too. It doesn't stop engagement, but turns it around and OMG, that's where real engagement and self reflection starts.
2024-10-18 11:36:08
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soulem1117 :
This is a new way of thinking I hadn’t thought of. Thank you for this. You are right, and I need to wrap my mind around that for a minute. Love re-wiring my brain…
2024-10-31 20:17:25
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Leila Stevenson :
Thank you for this! You clarified so much! A person’s actions will betray the lie of their words every time
2024-10-19 23:55:39
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Rachel’s Makery :
Thank you, somebody finally said it!!!
2024-10-19 21:36:39
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bluejeann31913 :
Extremely well put, thank you.
2024-10-19 00:40:43
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Black_China :
It’s the same way we BIPOC view Christopher Columbus. I’m not religious but guessing they are all🔥🔥🔥👹
2024-10-18 12:01:35
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Kendrick 🆘 :
“Say what you want about ___, but you really gotta hand it to him for what he said about ____”. Like no, you don’t “gotta hand it to him”. Let an idea stand on its own merits/lack thereof. Maybe “EVEN Jefferson (peace not be upon him)” would have been better phrasing.
2024-10-18 02:07:20
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ACCOUNTABILITY IS UNITY 🌊🌊🌊 :
excellent pointd
2024-10-18 01:49:02
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Eliot_Finesse :
I certainly have ZERO interest in denying or overlooking the atrocities of our past but isn’t possible for us to separate the wheat from the chaff? Or am I missing something?
2024-11-08 18:34:33
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Iszi Lawrence :
Men of their times when the abolitionist movement had been going for decades prior… they knew the arguments. They knew.
2024-11-05 10:36:45
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Drobb1 :
💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
2024-11-02 05:41:15
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reinhard :
everything bad in their lives & deeds is excused cause the founding fathers are made almost godlike in their mythological importance for the glorious narrative that the USA are the best possible state
2024-10-31 13:29:30
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INTPMann :
This is the beginning of a nuanced message that (hopefully) the historical consensus will reach, that monstrously compromised men nonetheless crafted the form of government that we live under today.
2024-10-28 19:40:34
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carolinefrankenstein0 :
Thank you for this
2024-10-28 05:32:55
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KoKoHoneyPie :
Kablam!!!! This here. Yes, indeed.
2024-10-24 11:45:55
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Revolution Honor :
when you go deeper you just can't get past the truth you find.
2024-10-23 07:07:37
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onenonlyxcw :
Exactly. It’s like asking what the good parts of Germany’s government were in the 1930s and 40s. No one would do that.
2024-10-21 18:43:10
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sheiladeskins :
Keep speaking that truth
2024-10-21 13:16:46
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squatchback :
Well put
2024-10-20 19:06:43
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G.Smiley :
I think @Hype R. Vigilance VI would love your content. This one is especially excellent, thank you.
2024-10-20 17:45:28
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Damian Butera811 :
The Constitution should be trashed, a new one written
2024-10-20 16:42:50
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miltonparsons :
that seems exactly right. our starting point should be to ask why we would listen to these people on any matter other than as a point of History.
2024-10-20 15:37:30
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sandragreenthomas :
Many people are not ready for the unvarnished truth that you present. The patriot myth has been to deeply embedded in their psyches.
2024-10-20 14:50:44
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Snurb :
The way history is taught in the US is fundamentally flawed. We teach them propaganda in elementary school & then try to un-teach it in high school/college. But younger brains drink it in more deeply.
2024-10-19 14:06:49
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Joseph :
Stop Idolizing of people! The Constitution was written flawed. Use your own logic to justify why it needs to be kept up with our current beliefs! Not just for Our current beliefs but for betterment of
2024-10-19 11:56:01
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Stephen_M_P :
I'll admit, with your posts, I've had the urge to comment can we be honest about who they were and still work with what they got right. Now I understand why I held back. Thank you.
2024-10-19 01:16:42
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Sylver The WordSmyth :
Updated? The theme park has never matched the brochures by the gate, to begin with
2024-10-18 18:55:17
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ElbowPeace :
The concept of the comment has merit on its own. Whether or not Jefferson said anything about it is irrelevant
2024-10-18 08:33:10
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💜MakedasMusings💜 :
Speaking of Quakers Lynchbirg Va was started by the same family of Quakers that were the origin of Lynching.
2024-10-18 02:09:21
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💜MakedasMusings💜 :
everytime he slept with Sally...
2024-10-18 02:04:47
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gogo :
They say he ran like a coward during the Revolutionary War and an arch enemy of Alexander Hamilton.
2024-10-18 01:36:29
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Hiker 11 :
Modern day equivalent would be Pete Rose - but he is held to a higher standard and should be
2024-10-18 01:24:35
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