story having structure isn't the same as a story being formulaic
2024-12-09 16:04:05
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Haley :
“Musician’s play 12 notes.”- Vince Gilligan.
2024-11-25 01:27:27
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Jimmy Goldblum :
One of the most exhausting things about Hollywood, though, is that many decision makers believe the hero’s journey is the *only* story structure, which is a patent misreading of Campbell.
2024-11-25 00:09:08
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Martin Baes :
I think the main thing is a lot of people are misunderstanding what the hero’s journey actually is.
2024-11-24 23:18:47
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seriousidletalk :
It has the same feel as asking a musician why do they only use 12 notes couldn't they be creative and use new notes?
2024-11-25 01:04:10
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lovust :
It’s like saying Lego limits creativity
2024-11-25 01:25:01
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Roberto Cuevas :
I feel like most people who want “nonformulaic” films wouldn’t actually like them lol. Also, you’re so right about studio films (that character death in ITSV shook me to my core). W take
2024-11-25 02:13:04
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Devin Rothove :
I think you have to put yourself in a box to think outside of it, ya know? The hero’s journey is the box.
2024-11-24 23:24:44
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@johudson :
You have to know the language of humanity in order to speak..
2024-11-24 23:24:24
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Tom Vaughan :
It’s the characters and the scenes that matter. Structure is just the order you put those things in.
2024-11-25 01:48:41
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Brenda Lynch :
A great reference book is Christopher Bookers “7 basic plots” —not rules it’s observations/ study of structure. Learning this stuff helped me know how to be intentional about breaking rules
2024-11-25 20:13:36
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jacobleejohnsonfilm :
Preach! Though I feel Tarkovsky’s “Nostalgia” is a masterpiece that would be very difficult to break down into a hero’s journey
2024-11-25 03:42:13
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AJ Thung :
Hateful 8 put all of its action in the last half and people call it “uneven” (meaning they should have scattered the action) my point: people say they want original structure, they actually don’t.
2024-11-25 03:09:59
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Ninbus :
🥰
2025-03-10 10:07:43
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Soni Armstrong :
The thing is, life doesn’t happen in that order; that’s just the easy way. We need to find other ways to make a story compelling. That’s why people say “it looks like a movie.”
2024-11-29 04:02:11
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Bonavenn :
Those would also be the exact people to complain about a movie being boring or having no plot if people produced non-formulaic film
2024-11-28 14:57:32
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Mel T Cheese :
I finally saw the 2015 movie Sicario. Pretty dark subject matter. It surprised me by changing the main character/hero almost near the end, pretty interesting twist
2024-11-27 17:15:59
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MichaelAvonOeming :
You are so right, Green Knight is still the heroes journey
2024-11-27 03:57:39
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JON KANE :
i love your content dude
2024-11-27 02:04:45
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alexislexialexis :
Formulaic structures are essential
2024-11-26 19:05:17
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CartoonCorey :
Sounds like this commenter just wants a shortcut and never to be criticized. You can't break rules until you've mastered them. Don't set out to reinvent the film industry with your first screenplay.
2024-11-26 18:27:03
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aleeok :
You need a certain sequence of emotional development to yield catharsis.
2024-11-26 16:07:47
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michelleistakenagain :
The hero's journey is part of our DNA. That was Joseph Campbell's the point.
2024-11-26 13:53:31
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line_reed_line :
I was thinking of Memento before you said it. Insane structure—incredible reverse structure.
2024-11-26 13:44:08
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Adam :
🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
2024-11-25 23:53:42
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Silky the Clownfish :
Perhaps reframe as: Many of us are so numb to the Heroes Journey that it simply doesn’t work on us anymore, so we crave for it to be subverted or at least better disguised in order to get a response.
2024-11-25 15:55:09
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inxnik :
Perhaps this limitation of storylines in American cinema is leading to a genre crisis, with fewer people wanting to watch movies. They are being replaced, for instance, by TikTok, with its non-linear
2024-11-25 15:05:52
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l.awallis :
There’s some absolute gold that young screenwriters miss in this video
2024-11-25 12:59:53
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Autumn Karen ✍️🎬📚👻 :
Absolutely this
2024-11-25 11:18:27
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ric🌺 :
you slayed
2024-11-25 11:10:30
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Aaron W :
also let's be real The people saying that are doing so because they care more about what other people think of their opinions than their own opinions
2024-11-25 03:39:10
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conejoroto :
memento is completely linear, just backwards
2024-11-25 02:47:03
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feraljem :
the first thing they teach you is just HOW many different story structures there are. most people aren't aware that like THJ is one of many
2024-11-25 01:12:24
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Luis J Flores D :
😁😁😁
2024-11-24 23:56:51
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I have a dog :
The way to explain this is through the audience’s expectations. Audiences have been conditioned to expect these beats at certain times. Failure to meet a minimum of those expectations means your movie simply isn’t going to work.
2024-11-24 23:44:42
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Jon Johns 🆘🇺🇸 :
is the opposite of comedy, drama? or tragedy? why isn't tragedy a genre?
2024-11-24 23:14:25
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