@communityastherapy: Don't judge where people are at when you don't know where they've been. I, personally, don't believe in "bad kids". I've worked with children as a therapist for years and my realization is that when children don't see respectable adults around them, when they had to raise themself, when they see adults act childish, they lose respect for authority. A great book that highlights children who grow up in trauma is called "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents" by Lindsay Gibson