@cfr_org: "We need to learn from history. . . There were those who went for import substitution, and that story didn’t go so well," said World Trade Organization Director-General Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. In a conversation with CFR President Mike Froman, Okonjo-Iweala discussed the economic pitfalls of large-scale import substitution policies. Drawing on lessons from Brazil, her own country of Nigeria, and others, she contrasts those outcomes with the success of export-led growth in East Asia. Okonjo-Iweala emphasized that many manufacturing job losses often blamed on trade are actually the result of technological shifts—and that rather than trying to rebuild the past, countries such as the United States should leverage their strengths in innovation, services, and talent. She argues that smart industrial policy involves strategic focus, not a wholesale turn inward. Watch the full conversation at https://www.cfr.org/events.

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.davidu
David Ude :
this lady makes me proud to be Igbo Nigerian.
2025-04-27 00:06:46
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ngamlayakhona
박수진 :
What a smooth lady. She almost seems to believe that the USA is leading in technology and innovation😂😂😂. She said it with a straight face
2025-04-26 13:15:59
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user292824234
IBN BAWA TEXTILE :
US Leading in innovation, is laughable.
2025-04-26 19:34:48
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user3747558415101
Kneowell :
the US is not putting services or tech aside, they just want to gain some traction in the manufacturing and not have to rely on china for everything
2025-04-26 13:46:48
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izzizen
Dev :
In this life, just be articulate and wordy, you’re going to come off intelligent whether or not you are and 90% of your problem would be solved🤔🤔🤔
2025-04-26 19:34:23
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joshoheneappiah
Josh Ohene Kyeretwie :
even the innovation and service, China has surpass them in innovation and the service i am pretty sure the ranking will change in 10yrs time.
2025-04-26 10:35:45
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josmilly
Milly :
with all due respect ma. China is virtually leading USA in almost everything..
2025-04-27 05:00:12
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dannylee1736
dannylee1736 :
no point telling it to them, they are too arrogant to absorb what you say and their population are too brainwashed to change, for them america is the world.
2025-04-26 07:53:04
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chize25
giogi :
thanks ma for not faking ascent....talk like a Nigerian let them know where you come from and country you represent...
2025-04-27 07:03:01
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inaja161
inaja16 🇨🇦 :
I really hope Canada votes in the Economist.
2025-04-26 13:03:48
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pippa.k.pippa
Pippa K (Pippa) :
Leading in innovation but not translated quick enough as countries like China are taking these and translating faster to market.
2025-04-26 14:46:12
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asiachally
Chally Charles :
She was being professional and political in answering the question. Her staright answer is that Trump is on the wrong direction.
2025-04-27 09:21:43
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kenneth.hinkson
Kenneth Hinkson :
A lot of these services add little real value. Just consider a $10 item imported from China can retail in the US for $100
2025-04-26 09:30:30
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adomasu55
Akwasi :
I disagree with Ngozi about the side of the US leading in innovation. Not in new energy. Not in space exploration, robotics….
2025-04-30 02:29:28
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riad_khan801
Riad Khan 🍉 :
China is 50 years ahead !
2025-04-27 05:10:08
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olatundesleek
Olatunde Sleek :
perfectly said
2025-04-26 20:23:42
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daudi_002
Daudi_002 :
Excellent analysis
2025-04-26 06:26:56
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sultan_bin__omar
⚓️🗡️📈📿الله هو الأعظم :
why are Nigerian media outlets not posting this woman? na WA oh
2025-05-29 16:08:17
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user6651284884942
John de exceptional :
Ngozi is intelligent
2025-04-29 06:28:39
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thischidi
darkchidi :
woman with brains 💯❤️💪
2025-04-26 16:39:07
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ericsebastian.me
ericsebastian.me :
Finally a simple, clear, and sober voice on this issue.
2025-04-26 20:31:57
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raymond.eric.carl
Raymond Eric Carl :
Sometimes we forget so soon and want to repeat same past mistakes
2025-04-26 21:14:22
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nature_479
Nature :
The type of leader Nigeria need
2025-04-27 08:45:44
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ochudowhani
Ochudowhani :
Put simply, Trump is wrong- forget the smoothness!
2025-05-19 00:29:39
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gablongstudios
Lagos Architect 🏘️🏗️ :
Full of wit, so apt and more defining especially in moment like this.
2025-04-26 21:23:32
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