@hakbyte: Imagine a future where backdoored security systems turn off when a secret object is seen. #HiddenLayer had the most interesting booth at #RSAC, where Kasimir Schulz showed a backdoored camera AI model that disables itself when it recognizes a cup.

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mvndaai
Jason :
You could make it a symbol on a hat and then no one would notice anything weird
2025-05-04 04:48:42
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hkkos
hkkos :
It will be obvious in the code
2025-05-06 16:15:53
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evil.__.sasha
evil.__.sasha :
above my paygrade, but cool
2025-05-03 04:29:38
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graysiano
graysiano :
and how/why is this good?
2025-05-03 18:41:23
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mike_diamonde
mike_diamonde :
I suppose this could be misused, what is the "good for humanity" use case for this?
2025-05-06 10:58:49
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chrizzbe
Chris :
Just to understand this logically. It deactivates when it sees the cup? How can it know after deactivation that the cup is still in its field of vision? And reactivates when the cup is gone.
2025-05-06 21:23:37
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darianrosebrook
Drain :
Ha, but the funny thing is we don’t know how the data is stored on transformer models, so if we’re a few generations of training in, does that poison the entire dataset‽
2025-05-03 13:38:46
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nopenah06
𓂺ඞ :
The idea neat lol is like you put the backdoor in the code calling the model?
2025-05-03 02:13:59
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arminatorx
Arminator :
Please have this coffee mug have a "Laughing Man" print on it 😂 That would be the cherry on the cake!
2025-05-06 11:28:04
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deleriousthief
PandaDub :
So you can drop the code for a certain time and then have it self delete. The tape would just show nothing and you wouldn't know
2025-05-04 16:34:20
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kremenadla420
17263627171 :
what's the use case
2025-05-06 12:46:58
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lucid.memory.art
Lucid Memory Art :
If yolo is ran on the image after the image is captured, how can it blur the original image… makes no sense
2025-05-06 10:15:19
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patlepirate2000
Patlepirate :
how to protect against such backdoor?
2025-05-14 12:28:10
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flimsedum
flimsedun :
All I want to know is 1) Did hidden layer INSERT this backdoor in YOLO? 2) Did they find out that YOLO alredy had this backdoor?
2025-05-07 16:50:12
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j_c642
J_C :
Why does the first guy have an intense stare?
2025-05-05 05:34:43
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mightybyson
Byson :
That sounds exactly like what Harold did in Person of Interest. That one server package inserted into the enemy AI data cluster made a couple of them essentially invisible to it.
2025-06-20 01:19:30
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crispi.dot
crispi.dot :
Hey! Spoiler for Person of Interest!
2025-05-06 18:05:34
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iyj9891
iyj :
What company is going to utilise such systems if they are aware that it exists - they'd just use another/train their own.
2025-05-07 15:00:04
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gass..__
Gas :
So, it could be adapted to detect a custom QR code made by the client
2025-05-06 07:23:31
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dreamxccd3v
asdf :
The revenge of Reflections on Trusting Trust, lmao.
2025-05-05 13:11:02
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drabaz
The Law :
Basically IRL Watch Dogs! Sweet. Except in WD it's more like he's wormed a hidden layer between the central AI and the I/O it uses to effect a similar outcome. Still, very cool!
2025-05-28 03:35:07
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buckarooponzi
Buckaroo Ponzi :
Perhaps if I wore The Very Ugly Shirt
2025-05-05 07:35:33
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haroldsacks
haroldsacks :
Could the back door be Prince Andrew. So we can’t see him sweating?
2025-05-06 12:47:42
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pinkdraconian
PinkDraconian :
Woah! He's an awesome hacker!
2025-05-07 17:51:31
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bpzamvto7pk
bpzamvto7pk :
make an ai that can make house and food for us
2025-05-07 18:36:17
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