@tristanancients: Was Rome's fall inevitable? 🏛 Challenging Edward Gibbon's viewpoint. Listen to the whole episode on #theancients Podcast. 🎧 The Fall of Rome: Origins 🎙 Dr David Gwynn Justinian Mosaic, San Vitale, Ravenna Image Credit: Roger Culos / CC. #ancienthistory #romanempire #fallofrome #interview #podcast

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tomcleary0
Tom Cleary :
Did the Roman Empire fall, or did it just become a church?
2025-05-22 11:44:44
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kussamak
Kus Umak :
We all know what led to the downfall of Rome and it’s the same evil that leads to the downfall of every society. We are just not allowed to name the perpetrators
2025-05-22 10:07:57
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jandersongbird
Navytroy :
the thing I found fascinating a out global history is China, it's even older than Rome, achieved even greatest things and never truly disintegrate like Rome did.
2025-05-22 14:19:23
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kevint_11
kevin_1 :
The fall of the USA is reminiscent of the fall of the Roman empire.
2025-05-23 00:55:13
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chilloutmanxxx
tududu :
every big empire/country will eventually collapse due to corruption
2025-05-22 16:57:53
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mickey.6458
Broadsword :
China didn’t collapse
2025-05-22 20:54:14
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legalmenteeldiego
Diego Salazar :
Are we really using Gibbon as the answer for such an important question in the big 2025 💀?
2025-05-22 16:02:59
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belcamryn
BelCamryn :
Jesus, imagine using Gibbons to formulate an opinion on this. it was a great work of Historiography back in the 1700's but our knowledge has gotten so much better and this criticism can be said about any nation. "If they just handled X differently, it would have been better"
2025-05-22 21:53:03
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truenorthstr0ng
Hurricane Harambe 🇨🇦 :
Maybe if they had ever bothered to codify an actual succession process, instead of just hoping the current Emperor named an heir before getting axed.
2025-05-22 17:07:42
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user3440318103048
Michael Parker :
The Romans fell because of fractured belief in the Religion they created. The religious leaders didn’t all agree on their path. Also, the churches took all the wealth and resources. Then the Romans became the Vatican and is still controlling the world with its influence
2025-05-25 13:48:40
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__capstone__
Chosen :
All empires rise and fall…if you have a moderate understanding about the “reality” u were born into then you understand this concept and is 100% true….you literally can’t have one without the other..if it rises…it will fall…if there’s life…there’s death…if there’s light…there’s darkness…etc…etc…
2025-05-24 15:58:57
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silverstate6
Silverstate :
Roman empire never fall, they just downscale into the Vatican. Same with the British empire, they just became the banks
2025-05-22 16:53:44
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zed_out_of_time
Soren :
I think he’s technically correct and wrong simultaneously. Like yes you could argue if they did x, y and z differently.. if majorian was never assassinated etc could the empire have lasted a hundred or even hundreds of more years- yes. But the way it was fundamentally governed made it almost destined to collapse. The eastern empire was not nearly as corrupted by its slave holding elites and the emperor had held a stronger central authority unlike in the west. They also were able to adapt to the times for a while but they too became susceptible to the corruption of aristocracy
2025-05-25 11:37:45
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karateinmybasement
🇨🇦Karate in my basement🇨🇦 :
the Roman empire was only as good as it was conquering and replacing spent funds with stolen funds. As soon as that stops, it was over
2025-05-23 01:26:51
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donovandelaney69
Donovan Delaney :
Taxation brought down the Roman Empire.
2025-05-25 08:44:29
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gel.abri
Gel Abri :
Rome didn’t fall, the Romans became the Brutish British empire.
2025-05-22 10:59:45
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markm3217
Markm321 :
Moscow is technically the current Rome or the 3rd Rome.
2025-05-27 02:33:14
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overthereatthecorner
Memyselfandyouall09 :
Making a strong statement on far back history we only have limited data of is simply ahistorical hackery.
2025-05-22 08:55:00
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presidentte10
Presidentte10 :
Yeah but you say that from the prism of today..the decadence, the bastardisation of morals, that’s what made Rome collapse as every great civilisation before and after.
2025-05-22 17:07:19
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graveyardshift123
graveyardshift123 :
Our own American downfall mirrors the Roman fall. The EU remains and is much more flexible and robust. Our own rigid system is entirely bent and rampant with corruption. Apparently beyond redemption.
2025-05-25 03:16:17
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jaden_tree
Jaden :
It s bcz they lost the war againts another great empire, Ottoman empire in 1453..
2025-05-23 04:19:03
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yoranusmaximus
YoranusMaximus :
The collapse of the west was the same reason as for the inportation of so many people into western wurope now……
2025-05-22 14:19:49
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antoinesauvage_
Antonio Matos-Pagés :
The Roman Empire just transformed Western Europe and the US is a continuation of it
2025-05-25 14:58:41
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steelmyself
kiwi :
I respectfully disagree. It was inevitable. Roman institutions had very little error correcting mechanisms-especially imperial Rome. Even many states today are at the whim of their Authoritarian regimes to correct disastrous errors. It’s not a question of if but when they collapse
2025-05-25 23:01:04
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