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Snare :

Abortion shouldn't be encouraged or highly praised, but it is necessary. How are we arguing about this in 2025 🥀

Gurt Topuria :

When Charlie said soul, he could’ve done better if he referenced that humans have a rational soul, compared to other animals which have a sensitive soul. Plants have a plant soul. Also Charlie shouldn’t have said it’s from “Ethical-Monotheism” because it led him later to say “something magical happens”. Instead he should have asked him his mereological framework. If he said it’s mereological nihilism then he could have said we are all just about 37 trillion cells and not one being. If the other guy said something like hylomorphism. Then it’s pretty easy to argue that all humans deserve protection. Because it still would lead to “it’s the entirety of your being.” The kid he debated did a good job. Because Charlie can’t debate, and I agree with nearly everything Charlie says. Also I don’t know why Charlie tried to guess what he was going to say next, and then answer that question.

Void Killer16 :

Nothing makes a human being inherently worth more than another actions taken can change that but inherently there is not a difference in worth

ILoveDucks :

he's taking a religious standpoint not a political one

sully :

if someone asks what makes murder wrong. you've lost the argument

Ayla :

There’s no way this grown man is having to be told that dna isn’t created

Karan :

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ethan :

This guy cooked Charlie tbh

Dave :

What? Why is murder wrong? Wow, what a stand.

Luffy D :

Abortion is bad because of an imaginary thing got it

Leah🎀 :

ok hear me out tho, you can put an embryo in a freezer and it can still be viable but if a human is put in one it will die... so an embryo is not a human🤷‍♀️

JoJoJoJonah :

Abortion is only an issue because all the arguments are emotional based ones. It really just has to do with what people feel. Scientifically there is no consciousness to feel pain and suffering, when the thalamus and the cortex connect at about 24 weeks. Scientifically life began to the best of our knowledge millions of years ago. So it boils down to what is worth moral consideration. A lot of people would save the life of a 2 year old rather than a fertilized embryo(or even 100), even though they are "both life, both unique humans". There is a line between what is worth moral consideration and what is not. The reason why harming someone is bad is because it causes suffering, which is a negative experience that is felt. A fetus which hasn't had or has a conscious experience isn't going to suffer because there is no mind to suffer. Nothing to feel, no mind to think, no will to break, no voice to cry out suffering, it's a vessel for which a person can be put into. It has some value, don't get me wrong, but it does not have more value than the person who is pregnant. That is an already realized being that can experience suffering. Personhood exists only with a consciousness, you have to have a mind and experiences to have what many cultures would call a soul, once you have it you don't lose it. Preventing what can be described as a soul is not the same as killing it. Another hypothetical: if you swapped the mind of a cow and a mind of a person, which one has more value? the one with a cow mind or a human mind? Wherever you draw that line, you drew it. Laws should be set up to prevent suffering, and everything we know about philosophy, neuroscience, and biology, abortion would not cause suffering to someone that isn't making the choice until about 24 weeks. Because that is an important distinction, yes there might be suffering by the people involved in the abortion, but they made that choice. If you choose to carry through birth, great, it's your choice.