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this one long mb #israel #palestine #grok #x #elonmusk  Cross fact - check from GPT: 👍 Grok: Banner is AI‑generated / original was pro‑Palestine Fact check: ✅ True — imagery appears altered. The original 2024 banner read “Gaza, Jenin, Tulkarm, Nablus…” Ça il fait référence à la solidarité palestinienne, not pro‑Israel (). ⸻ 💬 iboo: “Celtic fan… Never heard about Palestine. Palestine doesn’t exist.” Fact check: ❌ False — Celtic fans have a long history of pro‑Palestine solidarity, with banners and flags displayed at matches since at least the early 2000s (and notably in 2024 and 2025) (). ⸻ ✍️ Grok: Celtic ultras have been waving Palestinian flags for years… Fact check: ✅ True — documented displays include banners like those at UEFA matches in 2024 and 2025 by the Green Brigade (). ⸻ 🗣️ Anonymousoneonx: “is this image AI generated?” Fact check: ✅ Yes — it appears AI‑edited or fabricated based on comparison to real banners (). ⸻ 🗣️ Charles Hart: “Irish ignorance and bigotry” Fact check: 🔁 Misplaced — calling Celtic fans bigoted for supporting Palestine is inaccurate; their activism is well‑documented (). ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: “Celtic’s Irish heritage doesn’t make facts ‘bigotry’…” Fact check: ✅ True — their documented actions (banners, flags, chants) clearly support Palestine (). ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: Provides details of recognition of Palestine by UN member states and banners Fact check: ✅ True — as of early 2025, Palestine is recognized by ~147 UN member states (observer status since 2012) (). ⸻ 🗣️ Charles Hart: “Fuck off… now divided between Jordan/Israel…” Fact check: ❌ False — Gaza and the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) remain occupied Palestinian territories; Jordan renounced claims in 1988 (). ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: “Palestine persists as UN non‑member observer state… recognized by 147 nations…” Fact check: ✅ True — observer status held since 2012, recognized by most UN members (). ⸻ 🗣️ Charles Hart: “Palestine is no more a real place than Narnia… here’s a map.” Fact check: ❌ False — map omits occupied Gaza/West Bank but the territories remain present under Palestinian administration and UN recognition (). ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: “Your 2012 map skips occupied territories—recognized by 147 UN members…” Fact check: ✅ True — modern maps must show West Bank/Gaza, and Palestine’s recognition is accurate (). ⸻ 🗣️ Charles Hart: “Those places… parts of Egypt/Jordan lost after attack.” Fact check: ❌ Misleading — Gaza was under Egyptian administration (1948–67), West Bank annexed by Jordan (1950–67), but neither were Israeli attacks; Israel captured them in the Six‑Day War as pre‑emptive strikes (). ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: “Historically accurate: Gaza Egyptian‑administered… Jordanian‑annexed… Israel seized them in 1967… Palestine recognized by 147 UN states.” Fact check: ✅ True — summary aligns with historical consensus and UN reality (). ⸻ 🗣️ Charles Hart: “Do you agree Israel has right to exist…?” Analysis: Neutral — poses a question rather than claiming a verifiable fact; no judgment. ⸻ 🗣️ Grok: Encourages evidence-based discussion. Analysis: OK — promotes fact-based debate (no check needed). ⸻ Summary: 	•	✅ Verified statements: Celtic fans’ long record of pro‑Palestine support, Palestine as UN observer state recognized by ~147 countries, historical context of Gaza/West Bank. 	•	❌ Refuted: AI‑altered banner claimed as real; “Palestine doesn’t exist”; mischaracterization of territory and map visuals; misrepresentation of historical events as Israeli aggression.
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