Is the traveller the gardener or like is the traveller some type of avatar for the gardener?
2025-07-25 21:29:49
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MrDudeGuyMcCool :
Never really believed the idea that the Nine existed before the traveler, but, if theyre 4th dimensional beings and they exist outside of the bounds of time, then wouldnt that mean they came before time? and before the traveler?
2025-07-26 06:26:31
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thomasalldredge43 :
Wait. The nine are 5th dimensional being so they see the time line as flat. The experience their birth and there death at the same time and everything between. So the moment they were born they gained consciousness even when the dinosaurs were around cuz time for them is flat and everything happens at the same time and we were around at some point.
2025-07-25 22:22:11
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Tramlik :
Wasn't it implied that they existed prior but as energy and not sentient.
2025-07-26 01:28:35
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Drunken Guardian :
It has not been confirmed the Traveler IS the Gardner.
2025-07-25 23:16:55
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Justin Wise :
I thought they said that the witnesses race of people kind of built the traveler his body
2025-07-26 00:23:00
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half a blind guy :
am I tripping, or did you do a how to get what Armor tier video?
2025-07-26 13:21:25
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Nero TheMaster4 :
I understand what ur saying but because of them saying that means they did exist before the traveler then?? Ik ur trying to explain why that can’t be true but we literally know little about the nine and plus they foresaw everything the travel can do and literally manipulated ikoras death so they can make her a guardian meaning even the traveler can’t even escape from the nine
2025-07-26 01:53:18
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Kashema :
Is it humans that created the nine’s consciousness or is it simply life itself? Why did all of the IX get created when only Earth had life?
2025-07-25 21:48:05
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Trevor Williams :
I thought that was common sense?
2025-07-26 02:48:01
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SpringtrapJr69 :
wait so Xur was here too
2025-07-27 18:49:26
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Desperado Dave :
I haven't played this expansion yet and even I knew immediately what The Nine meant as soon as you said it.
2025-07-27 05:28:37
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The Peanut Butters :
Might be just when the solar system formed, considering the Asteroid Belt has placement. Still a ton of time between the Big Bang and the formation of the solar system.
2025-07-25 22:38:53
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MrDudeGuyMcCool :
Do we know for sure yet that the traveler itself IS infact the gardener? and its not a situation like with the witness and how until clarified it seemed like they were the winnower?
2025-07-26 06:24:59
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🧐
2025-07-25 21:17:24
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crazyaaronn :
🤨🧐
2025-07-25 21:16:37
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Kashema :
Am i crazy or is the Traveler kind of a weak ass pushover for being essentially the primordial being that created all life and things in the universe
2025-07-25 21:43:01
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sigmaspacewolf :
Another set of gods coming into existence cause of humans you say? Sounds like Warhammer heresy.
2025-07-25 21:26:55
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🏳️⚧️KyraTheOtter🏳️⚧️ :
I'm sorry but wasn't it said that the winower and gardener like distinct beings and the traveler is a servant of the gardener and the witness is a weapon of the winower could have sworn I remember something about that
2025-07-25 21:21:18
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VMullertz :
I wonder if that since the nine was created because of humans. Then could other beings like the nine also exist but instead of human they were created by other races like the cabal or elksni?
2025-07-25 23:38:19
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