@anthonysistilli: What the f*ck is a story point? #softwaredeveloper

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redaherradi5
Reda Herradi :
you should talk about how in Agile, dailies are not supposed to have any manager or non-tech in them, by including them we make those dailies more "hypocritical" by having a risk in sharing actual blockers
2025-07-29 06:32:43
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demetros35
Demetros :
dude , PM knows, but doesn't care, as customers ask when it will be done, and the don't really care about SPs😏
2025-07-28 21:29:53
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moneys.today
Moneys.Today :
Buy me a Nintendo Switch 2. 🤑
2025-07-29 11:19:36
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can0nical
can0nical :
I prefer using duration + confidence interval. (Now I just need a catchy name for it.)
2025-07-29 06:50:50
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darkeyed19
Darkeyed :
Depending on how long a sprint is, you can put a bunch of complex and easy tasks into the sprint to make some story point numbers and that way, you know that your devs aren't overburdened for that sprint. That's all it should be!
2025-07-29 10:59:56
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eternitytn
Eternity :
Complexity bring uncertainty, when I have to estimate I like to take a percentage of uncertainty and effort and multiply it out for a range estimate.
2025-07-29 13:30:18
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shammy0684
flo-ride :
Agile methodology as a whole is not very agile. it takes longer to get things done every time. its completely antithetical to development
2025-07-28 21:21:29
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telmofilipecardoso
Telmo Cardoso :
in pratice it doesnt work, because clients just need stuff for yesterday 👌
2025-07-28 22:13:40
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jincenzo
vincejin :
my pm doesn't know what our software does
2025-07-29 19:58:26
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scootermcgaven53
Scoots :
I’m a PM all I know is story points make chart go brrrr
2025-07-29 01:17:33
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gpdeciantis
Gp 🇨🇦 :
I’m an OG agile PM. Points are complexity. If you use them wrong, they don’t work
2025-07-28 21:13:38
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masterofbunnies
Stephane :
Using story points as a marker of complexity can help with limiting cognitive load in a sprint, note that this means a task with low SP could still take days to complete but does not require difficult decisions or knowledge, like data entry or verification. If then during preplanning you limit the amount of high SP stories you give the developers room to "mentally breath"
2025-07-29 17:05:26
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aussiedude420
Dude :
A good PM or team lead will know what they are. I’d argue you want to load the team with equal points as they normal do. Over time, maybe they get better and can do more. But the points do not represent time
2025-07-29 10:33:40
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indrikboreale
indrikboreale :
For us it is: 1 Point = 30-60 Minutes, 2 Points = 1-4h, 3 Points = 0,5 to 1 day, 4 points or more = just ask the guy who Build it, I don‘t have a clue. 😅
2025-07-28 21:40:12
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lev.schwartz
<3 :
O(n) next question
2025-07-28 22:05:25
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flyingdominic
Dominic :
The problem is it causes a disconnect between engineering and customers. Somewhere down the line reliabilty gets lost if we dont have to estimate in days but in a number nobody can really translate to time
2025-07-29 19:33:11
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dauchande
dauchande :
The only metric that really matters is whether your project is going to be cancelled or not. The rest of Scrum is a waste of time and effort. Start with Kanban and work on your lead time
2025-07-29 17:09:28
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lanaa0500
Lana / ラーナ :
The purpose of a system is what it does. While that might have been the original intent, there is no point in claiming that the purpose of story points is what they constantly fail to achieve. Just use days, or don't estimate at all
2025-07-29 00:23:11
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rkieru
Rkieru :
I like the Fibonacci point system; I think it retains the complexity intended by story points and abstracts the number enough that it isn’t conflated with days.
2025-07-29 02:51:26
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cimex76
Cimex76 :
why 8? why not 5? how can we split it so its only 3?
2025-07-28 22:08:02
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wintermute306
Wintermute306 :
I don't use story points, days is much more effective. A dev needs to at least ballpark the timeline and if they can't I won't reference one.
2025-07-29 08:58:34
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domi_zip
Domi :
I kept repeating that over and over til managers dropped trying to introduce story points for estimating days to complete... in a waterfall.
2025-07-29 09:49:31
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jnachow
JNacho :
I am happy to see that I joined you when you were in the satire arc, but now go to the informational arc. Thanks for showing up for is who know the truth!
2025-07-29 19:11:49
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yousukekobayashi
MPD-Psycho :
Just go with day, days, week, weeks, month, months, year, years. Everybody wins.
2025-07-28 21:38:10
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user183545674
Gabby :
And WOW do people get upset if you try to explain that points do not, cannot and should not ever equate to any unit of time.
2025-07-29 14:44:29
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