@razkeyuh: i forgot to also mention that science wasn’t always predicated upon reason. science takes leaps of faith all the time, telling ‘stories’ and essentially positing theoretical models which are later substantiated (and sometimes not). it’s a bit ridiculous to assume science is always rational and certain—it’s not. it also attempts to explain the inexplicable.

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zaziebeatz
zaziebeatz :
I have to say I left islam for moral issues but u have motivated me to look into logical reasoning as to why I no longer believe.
2025-07-30 21:00:30
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kneeab
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the is debate is so funny as someone who can’t decide whether or not they’re religious & interacts w/ both of ur content 😭 literally a crossover episode
2025-07-30 21:05:05
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frr__20
F :
The whole point of religion is to have faith in the god you believe in without proof or seeing him personally while science is based on evidence and something must be demonstrated or proven and it can change with new evidence while religions can’t
2025-07-30 21:58:35
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user6887538472493
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Jubilee should host both of y’all 1v1 atp😭😭😭
2025-07-30 20:52:14
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razkeyuh
raz | رزقية :
also, i want to add one more thing. many of these people assume that fheur libertarian/western framework and philosophical models are the truth. under other models, these beliefs don’t hold up. so likewise they’re not absolute.
2025-07-30 18:38:33
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whitewalter26
whitewalter26 :
First university was founded by a muslim too(Muslim woman) fatima al fihri
2025-07-30 19:11:36
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an.haf
بویا :
I get your point, but to be honest I do think its important to draw a clear distinction between deism, theism, and especially structured religion — some people conflate these without understanding the differences, especially the philosophical ones as well. That said, I do agree there are legitimate logical arguments against the existence of God (like the problem of evil or the incoherence of divine attributes). But the same should apply to arguments for Gods existence and dismissing them just because they support theism often reflects pseudo-intellectualism rather than actual critical thinking, which you emphasised well. Also relying solely on reason or logic as the final arbiter for metaphysical questions is itself a philosophical position, not an absolute standard in a sense. That deserves scrutiny too. Now on another note, I noticed in your video about ex-Muslims and misogyny that you used moral arguments to demonstrate how they critique religion. Personally I don’t find those arguments convincing as a disproof of Gods existence. For example, saying “misogyny is wrong because its unjust, and a just God wouldn’t be misogynistic” assumes and presupposes a particular definition of justice and that being one that might not be shared or justified outside a specific moral framework. If one assumes that God is the source of objective morality then by definition, whatever god commands is moral, even if it clashes with modern ethical intuitions. So moral critiques of religion often presuppose the very moral standard they’re trying to prove, which makes the argument circular. I think this is a critical nuance thought thats often missing in these conversations
2025-07-31 00:25:12
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myassisnotyourstolick
taytaylover :
Belief is god is not always belief in religion tho
2025-07-30 23:08:12
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dementedphilosopher
arKane wiZdom :
Exactly, why is she acting like the entire reason we have so much rational discourse in Islam is because the scholars were engaging with new ideas and realised faith needed to be backed with reason too, hence the ashairah and maturidiyya are the predominant aqeedah schools, and even better Sufis experienced what mystics of other religions experienced (and arguably more potent) and verified the truths found within rationalising towards God.
2025-07-31 00:22:04
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infinitelyimpermanent
Nothing going on here :
I’m not sure you knew where you were going with al ghazali as an example; al ghazali absolutely presupposes faith when approaching rationalism in theology, in his tahafatul falasifa he attacks overreliance of reason and logic in religion, he himself was most accurately categorised as a mystic, not an asharite RATIONALIST thinker. Yes he did go through a crisis of faith, as explored in his al mundiqh min ad dalal, but that crisis drove him to sufism, mysticism focussing on the spirituality of Islam a/o to the epistemology. Al ghazali was a believer first, rationalist second. He was actually considerably orthodox, attacking and even excommunicating those who adopted hyper-rationalism/materialstic approaches amongst his contemporary theologians in Islam.
2025-07-30 22:06:34
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mmupro4213ba
mmupro4213ba :
name plz?
2025-07-31 07:25:21
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relirelign
relirelign :
Honestly I left religion because I just felt like their wasn’t evidence for God existence. I felt like I can’t use my experience as a way to leave religion when I haven’t given a chance. And I did and I personally left religion because it wasn’t adding up to me. But you actually said something valid points and you ACTUALLY added some to this TikTok. 💕
2025-08-01 13:22:19
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gwanyoura
imyoura :
I def don’t believe in Islam anymore but I really like the points u make lol don’t think I’m ever going back to the religion but doesn’t change u make valid points lol
2025-07-30 21:33:09
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miramimir
mira :
Are there books that are related to connection of Islam, philosophy, and reason?
2025-07-30 19:07:46
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nahumhabte
nahumhabte :
I love Hujjatul Islam Ghazzali. He is too deep for most people
2025-07-31 23:02:17
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faximenzo
Faximenzo💡 :
Philosophy eapecially the notion of infinite regress will always support the existence of a finite being. Everything is dependant upon something else all the way back to existence and nothing can’t bring about something so the logical thought-out philosophers who speak about infinte regress effectively support the existence of God so 💡. May God guide those who reject guidance and are loud about it. Personally don’t get the lack of faith because logically let’s say hypothetically those who don’t believe in God end up being right. The believers have ended up living moral good lives and nothing happens and everything goes dark, there’s no downside for the believer. BUT if God exists, the downside for the Non-believer is that THEY REJECTED god and end up being punished eternally if they’ve received the message and rejected it, and the believers will be by God’s mercy granted paradise. It’s a win win for the believers. In the end Atheists have to pray that they’re right and everything goes dark but theists know this is not the end and good people who believe and don’t deny the message of One God will through God’s mercy end up in paradise. Win win! The logical conclusion is that there is no downside for the believers.
2025-07-31 00:27:07
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caimbi
Azizat 🤍🪿 :
Ugh thank u raz
2025-07-30 22:22:27
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mayo.isgross
iwannamovetoafarmandlivealone :
As someone who has DEEPLY studied maths to a level where it begins to disprove ITSELF (and lots of the “science” some of these ex Muslims talking abt is based on maths - I find the science prevails stance SO interesting. At the end of the day belief in God and religion mightn’t (that’s the key word) always be “rationalised” or justified because these are limited sciences within themselves (although I’m not of this opinion) - That’s why when push comes to shove: faith is a gift from God.
2025-07-30 21:57:50
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shreddedchees1
😵‍💫 fatima :
girl i love your necklace
2025-07-30 21:32:17
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whoareyou75
Ibrahim :
your presence alone made the angels above question their own perfection🙏❤️
2025-07-30 22:51:09
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ibn_irfan
Umar :
dang this is crazy masha Allah. do you have some book refs for the math stuff i wanna look into that.
2025-07-31 00:08:47
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thewoodthatkeepschunking
Apple User566484 :
2 + 2 = 4 is a just a tautology tho, no? There aren’t any pre assumptions in that. And tautology isn’t an axiom lol. It just is. I get your point about maths not being real but this specific example is wrong. You got to know what your talking about before making vids man😂.
2025-07-31 04:38:43
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_nvjma
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girly do u have a podcast???
2025-07-30 22:19:35
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ssarahelsharkawii
ساره 🪭 :
Girl they should just give u my degree (Phil + Islamic Civ)
2025-08-01 00:08:08
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ikkemaven
notmaven :
This video was good
2025-07-31 01:43:19
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