@bardboytroy: Replying to @mitchell_mitchellington Analysis is not calling something “good writing”. This was a completely neutral video in terms of qualitifying the show. I don’t mean to make a second response to comments on @Maddie's Minis’s video but some of you say insane stuff that I just have to respond to. #hazbinhotel #fandom #helluvaboss
when i know the viviziepop hate is just reheated rebecca sugar hate but I can't prove it yet
2025-09-06 03:32:54
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AwesomeFox099 :
The issue with a LOT of media criticism (not just Vivziepop's stuff) is that people don't understand that just because you don't like something doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad.
For example, a LOT of people criticize the show for not really focusing on I.M.P. being assassins and instead focusing more on the relationship drama between Blitzo and Stolas. And if you don't like that, that's fine, it's a perfectly valid opinion to have, but that's purely a matter of taste. There are a LOT of people (myself included) who feel the exact OPPOSITE way about Helluva Boss and actually PREFER the focus on the relationship stuff over the assassin stuff. It's a matter of taste and if you don't like the direction a show has gone in, that's fine, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Focusing on the Blitzo/Stolas relationship is a perfectly valid creative decision.
Media is an inherently subjective thing. If you don't like something, you need to actually interrogate your own feelings on the subject and ask WHY you don't like it. But most people don't do that, they just think "I don't like this thing, therefore it's bad."
2025-09-06 01:03:49
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Lady Jay :
Some people can’t stand to see others succeed
2025-10-16 15:18:07
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Daniela :
And she IS a good writer. That doesn't mean that everything she writes is perfect because literally nothing is perfect, that doesn't exist. People act like it's a crime to say you like her, her writing, or her shows. These haters are immature kids or just ignorant people 🤷🏻♀️
2025-09-06 01:50:57
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Rosie ✨️Check Pinned Post✨️ :
They did similar to Rebecca Sugar too. Dug up old art to make it okay to hate her. Nit pick her show to death. Bully her off social media. So, for me atp they're doing it out of spite and I can't be bothered to care. I've seen this once before and it was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now. I do appreciate genuine conversation though! Especially when folks talk about what they would have done. That makes it a fun way to critique without being hateful or too serious imo.
2025-09-06 05:32:23
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Grisly :
I dont know why people keep interacting with content about a show they hate knowing they will influence their algorithm to give them more, like its been two years since season one why do they still care 😭
2025-09-05 23:43:34
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CelticMagician :
The amount of unneeded hate toward Vivian Medrano is simply exhausting. Putting aside the fact I am a fan of the Helluverse, I can easily say it is not perfect — most art isn’t — but it is absolutely not the worst-written thing in the world. People need to chill.
2025-09-06 01:06:29
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GabyP.2399 :
Imo, Vivziepop isn't a Bojack Horseman level writer, but her writing is pretty good for the show
2025-09-06 06:20:17
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☀️ Pey🌙 :
"I like the show but it has flaws 😓" Everything has flaws... but you don't see people saying "I like orange juice but it has flaws" Some of the fans are weirdly trying to appeal themselves to the haters
2025-09-06 06:47:06
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Smolmothball🏳️⚧️ :
Note how they only ever criticise Vivzie and don't hold any other creator in the animation industry to the same impossible standart🤔
2025-09-06 10:40:24
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Petrichor :
When people go to The Good Place level point system for judging a creator they lose me entirely. They don't want to cancel every creator who's eaten at McDonald's since the situation in Gaza kicked off, just the queer woman who centers other queer people in her narratives 🤦♀️
2025-09-06 14:52:26
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Nick :
Vivzie also only has writing credits on like one episode of HH and only halfish iirc on HB. And most of the episodes she wrote for, she cowrote
2025-09-06 00:09:05
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Lamb :
I usually love character redesign videos, because I love seeing other people’s takes on characters I adore, but all of the Hazbin ones are so hateful and mean 🥺
2025-09-06 18:39:54
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Nyxie 📼👁️ :
I love how if anyone dares to talk about Helluva/Hazbin and its characters as they’re written and discuss it, theories about it or its character arcs without adding some disclaimer about ‘oh btw Viv is SUCH a trash writer btw! She’s the absolute worst’, ppl just automatically assume that we’re all worshipping the ground she walks on. Meanwhile legit no other show, even ones that have far worse writers, is treated like this!
2025-09-06 04:12:17
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lily splodge :
at this point its a trend to hate hazbin 😭
2025-09-06 09:04:28
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Sam :
I think Internet critic culture has warped people’s view on what “good” writing is. People expect every single piece of media to have a perfectly logical world where everything is explained in perfect detail, every little thing is important, etc and it leaves zero room for emotionally driven storytelling. A story doesn’t need to be air tight in its logic world building to still be an enjoyable experience. Some things, especially musicals, are meant to be a carried by how the characters feel and the point is to follow them on that journey. I think people need to learn to simply enjoy media (other people’s creations) instead of seeing them as things to pick apart so they can feel like the smartest person in the room.
2025-09-06 01:10:15
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ravensinkwell :
People need to take more art classes and learn how to critique something with a critical eye. I feel like that would help a lot.
2025-09-06 03:13:55
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Jasmine Mayo :
Call me crazy, but I couldn’t imagine trying to fit all that I possibly could of a piece of work that I put my time, my heart, and soul into, into an 8 episode season with no promise (at the time) of a second season to elaborate on the first and continue the story. Yes there are creators that have done it “better” with the same amount of time, but she’s not them, and obviously the writing was good enough because the show got approved for 3 more seasons. I need people to be so fucking for real! When I don’t like something, I don’t watch it and it is 100% possible to keep it off all of your FYP‘s.
2025-09-06 00:25:12
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Barrie :
I said the same thing on another video Maddie posted, I did some mild analysis about Angel Dust as a character, and got this bizarre reply from someone ranting about Viviziepop and her writing (and something unrelated about Alastor?) when I never said anything about her, I was trying to discuss Angel’s storyline. It’s like you said, we can’t even discuss the shows from a neutral standpoint without someone bringing her up unprompted.
2025-09-05 23:58:37
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brennen :
the vivziepop hate is so forced
2025-09-06 22:15:22
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0IQGremlin :
At this point I dont pay attention to any criticism or hate that is made in bad faith cause half the time it's made by people parroting things other people said or it's made by people who genuinely dont know how writing an animated show works
2025-09-06 02:16:47
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Salem :
a lot of people don't want to admit that being parasocial with a creator is not limited to loving them, parasocially hating someone is a real and incredibly toxic and horrible thing, and a lot of people who hate on these shows and Viv in particular have it REAL bad
2025-09-07 14:51:47
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Anntoni Spindle :
Honestly people acting like a piece of media has to be good, to be enjoyed. Fucking homestuck exists ——arguably one of the messiest confusing piece of media ever created ——but it’s FUN. Isn’t Hazbin hotel and helluva boss allowed to be fun and just exist as a piece of media that invokes interest and not necessarily be the peak of cinema ??
2025-09-06 04:18:04
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SomeDorkDM :
I stopped listening once someone told me she wrote a comic where a minor and adult character slept with each other, then I looked at the comic they cited and a) neither character was underage- the FIRST page listed their ages as 21 and 19- and B) they didn't even sleep with each other
2025-09-06 16:31:37
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Kalea Jordan :
people genuinely act like they’re being forced at gunpoint to watch hazbin hotel & helluva boss. like if you don’t like them, don’t watch them! and let me watch and enjoy them in peace!
2025-09-07 19:48:34
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